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Ozma Discussion => Ozma Discussion => Topic started by: brad on March 13, 2007, 04:03:17 pm

Title: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: brad on March 13, 2007, 04:03:17 pm
Ok so Ozma has posted some new blogs.  Looks like we're going to be able to hear 4 new songs this week.  It all looks dandy and sweet....except one thing that was a bit confusing was the mastering of Eponine as a single.  Pretty strange. 
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: CT-700 on March 13, 2007, 04:40:49 pm
Muy intersante. I had a feeling something was coming up because they took off all their songs except Wake Up last thursday.

EDIT: Remember when Ryen was talking about releasing Eponine as a single during that one podcast? I figured he was joking, but this must be what he was talking about.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: The Argyle Rebellion on March 14, 2007, 12:05:33 am
I'm excited...

If we are getting Eponine as a single, one must wonder if it is going to be the Spending Time version or a new, re-recorded version.  If it's re-recorded, I would hope that the horns would be replaced with something different... different strokes for different folks, but I really think that the horns are out of place.

Also, on the fact that there's a song with Rachel Haden... is it also then possible that Wake Up could be carried over to this album.  I could care less, really.  The version we already have is good and even if it is a new, as yet unreleased song, I'm sure it will be great.  Anything with a Haden in it is good.

I can't wait for the new songs... better yet, can't wait for May 15th.

*begins planning Ozma tailgate party in front of the local Best Buy*

*realizes people are lame out here and won't know who Ozma is*

*scraps party... will still camp out*
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: CT-700 on March 14, 2007, 10:59:28 am
Ozma had updated the Eponine blog with some new promo shots.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Not Jason on March 14, 2007, 10:35:27 pm
They rerecorded "Eponine".  The song featuring Rachel Haden is not "Wake Up".  There might be another redundant track on this album, but that's not why Rachel Haden's there.

It's not uncommon for bands to rerecord and/or rerelease old songs when they sign to a bigger label.  I can think of more than a few cases of it (though, to be fair, most of them involve Less Than Jake).  The funny thing about Eponine is that they've been playing that song for more than half a decade by now.  It was already old when they finally got around to recording it the first time.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: CT-700 on March 15, 2007, 07:58:29 am
I wonder what the new version is like, it must be semi to radically different considering the official recording is in no way bad quality.

Quote from: CT-700 on January 15, 2007, 06:25:22 am
After Ryen was tuning the guitar in the very beginning, it sounded like Kenn was playing his "Ghost Without a Dream" on guitar.

I just realized this could be more than possible because live Jose could play drums (because didn't he play drums in "Aberdeen"?) while Kenn plays guitar and sings.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Not Jason on March 15, 2007, 10:20:26 am
I don't know a whole lot about Aberdeen besides that they existed at one point, but I was under the impression that Jose played guitar on that.  I could be dead wrong.

Thing about the existing version of Eponine is that while it may not suck, it was recorded and produced in a completely different session and with a different drummer.  It's hard to put old recordings side by side with new ones and make it sound natural.  Especially when you consider some of the kind of stupid production choices that were made all over Spending Time.  From what I can tell, Ozma is less than happy with the sound of that album as a whole, so I think the production on this is going to sound a lot different.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: hipsun on March 15, 2007, 11:38:22 am
eponine changes.

recorded to a click
different intro drum beat
verse 1 goes straight to vocals
prechorus 2 different drum beat
shorter breakdown section
shorter outro/guitar solo
and obviously different (hopefully better) production

old version 4.30 (too long for radio)
new version 3.30 (perfect for radio)
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: The Other Mike on March 15, 2007, 11:50:49 am
Is it just implied that there's no saxophone on there? I sure hope so.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: jvstin on March 15, 2007, 12:55:42 pm
Quote from: hipsun on March 15, 2007, 11:38:22 am
shorter outro/guitar solo

new version 3.30 (perfect for radio)
>:(
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: CT-700 on March 15, 2007, 03:38:08 pm
Quote from: cupid stunt on March 15, 2007, 12:55:42 pm
Quote from: hipsun on March 15, 2007, 11:38:22 am
shorter outro/guitar solo

new version 3.30 (perfect for radio)
>:(

There goes that "classic rock" flavor it used to have. Although I am sure they will still include the long solo live.

Oh and Jason when I said he played drums for Aberdeen, I might of been getting confused with when he played drums in Yes Dear for a very short period of time. Plus when I was typing that I was home sick with a fever of 103 degrees, so anything I said back then could of been induced by my sickness. Another thing that makes me think that he might play drums live on that track is that he put up that video on his myspace of him playing drums.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: FireAarro on March 15, 2007, 07:25:00 pm
Star looks Samuel in the new pics. Also she has huge buttons.

I liked the Eponine horns actually, especially the baritone sax. They were pretty subtle.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: CT-700 on March 17, 2007, 05:49:55 am
You know, last time (back in September) when Ozma said they were putting up new music they said it would be up before the end of the week and it was put up before friday. I was expecting the same, and now its Saturday and there still no music.  :'(

I do have to remember though, while its 9:49 while I'll typing this, its still 6:49 where Ozma is. So hopefully we get it sometime today.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Indoor Fireworks on March 17, 2007, 02:07:44 pm
If I don't hear new Ozma songs by the end of the day I will stop listening to them forever.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: hipsun on March 17, 2007, 02:58:42 pm
bye.

nothing you haven't heard in some form is ready to be posted.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Zombie Don Ho on March 17, 2007, 03:02:14 pm
i think he might have been trying to make a funny.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: I Like Ozma on March 18, 2007, 01:08:41 pm
no, he was not trying to be funny, he has already threatened ozma once.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Indoor Fireworks on March 19, 2007, 11:33:56 pm
I try to threaten my favorite bands as frequently as possible.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Cirdan on March 27, 2007, 05:53:37 pm
Quote from: Not Jason on March 14, 2007, 10:35:27 pm
It's not uncommon for bands to rerecord and/or rerelease old songs when they sign to a bigger label.  I can think of more than a few cases of it (though, to be fair, most of them involve Less Than Jake).

The first rereleased song that comes into my mind is Green Day - Welcome to Paradise. Published first on Kerplunk, 1992, then on their Major Label Debut Dookie 2 years later. It was even a single from Dookie. just not sure if it was the first or the second single....

So, Pasadena will most likely go Multi-Platinum, have 3 No 1 Modern Rock Hits and will totally revive Popwerpop in the Mainstream Music Biz ^^
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: funwithsponges on March 28, 2007, 05:11:53 am
Might have been third or fourth, actually.  Basket Case, When I Come Around, Longview, Welcome to Paradise, She were all released.
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: DougieZero on March 29, 2007, 05:24:15 pm
Quote from: funwithsponges on March 28, 2007, 05:11:53 am
Might have been third or fourth, actually.  Basket Case, When I Come Around, Longview, Welcome to Paradise, She were all released.

Welcome to Paradise was the 3rd single released from Dookie, but I remember a lot of alternative radio stations (remember those?  :D) playing it right when the album got released. I think they released a promo single long before the commercial single... and rock singles weren't really singles, just really expensive imports!
Title: Re: New Ozma Blogs -- New Songs/Mastering
Post by: Cirdan on March 30, 2007, 04:49:21 pm
according to wikipedia, it was second single, after longview, before Basket Case. and I didn't need to import them :P however i wasn't really into Green Day back then... but we are kind of off topic right now ^^