I don't do much illegal downloading, and when i do i always end up buying, but is anyone else surprised that this hasn't leaked yet? I thought for sure it would be on oink by now :p
Uh.. You do realize it's a GOOD thing it hasn't leaked, right? You do want this album to sell well, don't you?
Quote from: ActionExplosion on April 28, 2007, 09:48:24 am
I don't do much illegal downloading, and when i do i always end up buying, but is anyone else surprised that this hasn't leaked yet? I thought for sure it would be on oink by now :p
Silly silly guygot.
Quote from: Kyosho on April 28, 2007, 10:48:12 am
Uh.. You do realize it's a GOOD thing it hasn't leaked, right? You do want this album to sell well, don't you?
eh, a leak probably wouldn't have that much of an effect on album sales. The album's gonna find it's way to the internet one way or another, and I for one won't buy an album without downloading it first (or finding some other way to listen to it).
Wow it's been a while since I've come on here...
Well my roommate works for a website called www.Insidepulse.com (http://www.Insidepulse.com) and it's his job to review cds before they come out. Check out his section, he did a really good one on the Bright Eyes review.
Anyway point is, TODAY he got the album and I felt the need to come back to this message board and announce that it sounds pretty awesome. Of course as his roommate, and a HUGE fan of Ozma, hah, I was able to hear the album as he was collaborating his review. I was of course going to buy it the first day it comes out. Out of huge respect for Ozma I won't contribute in pirating or illegal downloading but I will say it's an Samuel album. And I suppose I'll post whenever his review of the album is ready. So yeah, no proof other than his review that will be posted in a couple days. Sorry. :-)
Edit: Due to finals in school this week, he let me know it will be up in a week, not a couple days.
Quote from: ActionExplosion on April 28, 2007, 11:36:57 am
Quote from: Kyosho on April 28, 2007, 10:48:12 am
Uh.. You do realize it's a GOOD thing it hasn't leaked, right? You do want this album to sell well, don't you?
Don't be annoying I said I was surprised it hasn't leaked yet and never gave my opinion on file sharing or its effects....
And furthermore I like most people on here would buy the album (Or any album) despite a leak. I just like to listen as soon as I can. I'm not a waiter :P
English as second language?
Quote from: The Other Mike on April 28, 2007, 11:31:51 am
Quote from: Kyosho on April 28, 2007, 10:48:12 am
Uh.. You do realize it's a GOOD thing it hasn't leaked, right? You do want this album to sell well, don't you?
eh, a leak probably wouldn't have that much of an effect on album sales. The album's gonna find it's way to the internet one way or another, and I for one won't buy an album without downloading it first (or finding some other way to listen to it).
I agree I do like to hear an album before I buy it these days. And I do buy them even when I've downloaded them.
However, I already have OZMA's preordered from Amazon. And probably, if it does leak, I'll check it out because Amazon
could take longer than expected.
I somewhat admire the people who won't listen to an album until they have the actual physical copy in their hands, but I don't really have that kinda patience if the music is right in front of me and my physical album is assumed to be "on it's way."
Also, from what I've heard, I am very impressed by the new material. There was a point that I was a little worried when I heard they were remaking 2 songs, but from personal opinions I've heard so far, I'm expecting it to be Samuel.
With the album on sale at shows, it probably will leak soon, and I will download it...I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you plan on buying it when it comes out(which i do).
I bought 3 copies last night when they played here in Bakersfield.
Don't think I'm gonna put it up for download..I mean, it comes out officially in like 2 weeks.
My friend did however attain the title of "person to buy the first copy sold at shows" Bastard.
You could let us hardcore ozmafans get a taste of the album....seeing as 99% of us will be buying it to support the band anyway...... ;D and yes i know i dont post a lot, but im a frequent reader
No offense, but I don't think that Ozma is big enough for an album to leak. I mean if you look at whose albums do leak out on the internet it's mostly mainstream bands you hear on the radio, which most are cookie cutter bands that suck. Not that I'm dissing Ozma, but just pointing something out.
Quote from: weezer420 on May 02, 2007, 10:13:34 am
No offense, but I don't think that Ozma is big enough for an album to leak. I mean if you look at whose albums do leak out on the internet it's mostly mainstream bands you hear on the radio, which most are cookie cutter bands that suck. Not that I'm dissing Ozma, but just pointing something out.
I'm not sure if that's necessarily true. With the way bit torrents are so popular these days, I'm always surprised by what leaks early. Sure, OZMA isn't a BIG deal, but it only takes one person with access to it to put it online. --It's obviously an issue of widespread popularity as well-- but like I said, it only takes one person.
I agree, "small" stuff leaks all the time. Usually with smaller bands, there aren't as much restrictions from labels and stuff to stop it leaking, i.e. more friends are getting it earlier, and reviewers, etc. Any one could post it online, and seeing as how ozma is on a pretty small and unknown label and they are already selling it at shows, means they don't care about setting up hype for the release date, thus making it all the more suprising it hasn't leaked.
I think you're an asshole if you leak it.
If anything just leak D song..
but besides that i find it odd..no one has commented on the album, considering people apparently HAVE IT.
i find it weird that there hasn't been any talk about it either, however, by no means do i think any part of it should leak. you can live 13 more days.
Brad I understand and agree..
But in honesty, majority here, will ..hell all of us here will buy the cd no matter what..
Me especially, and one song wont change that, but i understand anyways..
the wait is destroying me though....
I'm buying two copies whether or not I get a leaked one.
My reasoning is that even if I can get a band's album for free, if they are a favorite group of mine I will buy the album no matter what. Plus, they're supposed to be signing the album down at Rhino and I'm buying a copy for them to sign and a copy to play... the signed copy is getting framed and put in one of the few non-musical-memorabilia filled spots on my wall. The copy to play? I'll burn three copies and set the original aside so it doesn't get scratched.
I agree. The waiting is hard, but I figure that when I get the album through Wal-Mart's site, it should be on or a little before the fifteenth, and when I listen, it will be even more Samuel.
All im asking for ..is someone to describe the album ..whoever has it..
...and maybe underneath my tree..lmao I just want that song ..above anything!
danorganplayer just wait, the cd will be better that way ;)
My take on the album for anyone who wishes to get a tiny bit of a bearing on how it sounds/feels:
1. No One Needs to Know - Still kicks ass, but doesn't have the same feel as DDD, less Jewish sound. Less music, they make some instrumental parts shorter
2. Barriers - I don't know, I just can't get much into this song..reminds me too much of late Yes Dear which I didn't care for much. It's alright though.
3. Eponine - Nice remake, a lot more polished, but lacks a little of the feeling, yet they do play the more emotional chorus at the beginning instead of waiting till towards the end, and Ryen's badass solo at the end is cut a lot shorter.
4. Fight the Darkness - I think this song is cheesy. Again, not bad...just probably my least favorite.
5. Heartache vs. Heartbreak [Booklet says: AKA Should Have Been Love, AKA Perceptions of love (And Heartbreak Leading To A Catastrophic Wave of Emotional Destruction)] - Nice integration of the female vocals, has some real delicious hooks in there, pretty edgey/catchy Oh and nice overlapping of voices towards the end
6. Incarnation Blues - Starts out with negative seconds with Star, Dan and Ryen doing a little intro where they talk (Haha, oh and Ryen totally nabbed the solo from Yes Dear's "Orion" at about 0:55, but I guess it's okay, cause I'm sure it's his licks anyway..kind of badass though dual guitars, sounds Iron Maiden-y)
7. Lunchbreak (Cobras Theme) - Haha this is cute. Good job Ryen. I really like this song, it starts out with a "Chopsticks"-esque piano thing, and then the distorted guitars come, and it kind of makes you wish the whole song was simpler without the electric guitars, but it's still good. Album title is mentioned.
8. Motorology 3:39 AKA Commuter Music (No. 2) Not a fan of the DJ-ish esque beginning of slowing it down and throwing in weird-timing drumbeats, but I do absolutely love at about 1:25 how the song changes and it gets reeally catchy. Eery guitar effect after that, it's nice.
9. I Wonder Multi-layering of Dan vocals, very nice..Sounds like a futuristic sounding Weezer's "Butterfly" haha, but not really, a helluva lot better, does have the crickets-sound in the background, ha. The harmonies are very solid. Kind of a spanish rythm in parts.
10. Underneath My Tree (D-Song) - Pasadena's "Imaginary Wheels" Ryen's great contribution to this cd. Easily my favorite song on the album, I've always loved D-Song, and it's even better than before, what with clear lyrics and more polished. Something I liked better in the original demo though was the 2nd "Whoa" from Dan after Ryen at the very end being later than this version. He comes in like a second earlier, and it kind of bugs me. Still good, but a lot more powerful in the demo. Oh and a total Satisfaction's "Nothing, Oh Nothing" moment at 2:53 with the walking up the neck with the bass notes. Samuel song.
11. Straight Flush - I like the Kenn's drums in this; very solid. Dan has some very powerful moments in this song. Very heartfelt at times. My favorite part is the dual metal guitar Jose/Ryen sounding parts, Samuel.
Quote from: The Argyle Rebellion on May 02, 2007, 03:18:46 pm
I'm buying two copies whether or not I get a leaked one.
My reasoning is that even if I can get a band's album for free, if they are a favorite group of mine I will buy the album no matter what. Plus, they're supposed to be signing the album down at Rhino and I'm buying a copy for them to sign and a copy to play... the signed copy is getting framed and put in one of the few non-musical-memorabilia filled spots on my wall. The copy to play? I'll burn three copies and set the original aside so it doesn't get scratched.
I agree. The waiting is hard, but I figure that when I get the album through Wal-Mart's site, it should be on or a little before the fifteenth, and when I listen, it will be even more Samuel.
what the hell is the matter with you?
(not at the "buying an album by a band you love" thing, but rather the "treating said album with more care than if it were your firstborn child... and buying it from wal-mart" thing)
Please stop begging for the album. Not the best place to be doing that sort of thing.
Quote from: Joe on May 03, 2007, 06:47:00 am
Please stop begging for the album. Not the best place to be doing that sort of thing.
Hey Joe, stop trying to use reverse psychology to beg for the album.
I know what you're up to.
Eponine was a bad idea. terrible actually.
it was on the LAST album and they dont do anything new with it.
No One Needs to Know is fine and i actually like this version better.
D Song is king.
Quote from: izquierdista on May 03, 2007, 10:39:06 am
Eponine was a bad idea. terrible actually.
it was on the LAST album and they dont do anything new with it.
No One Needs to Know is fine and i actually like this version better.
D Song is king.
I believe it was at the request of producers. And I don't think it's a terrible idea. It is weird considering it was on their last album, but since we do get 9 other new (somewhat new) tracks from the album, I can't really complain.
Quote from: izquierdista on May 03, 2007, 10:39:06 am
Eponine was a bad idea. terrible actually.
it was on the LAST album and they dont do anything new with it.
No One Needs to Know is fine and i actually like this version better.
D Song is king.
Eponine is shorter, more polished, and that gay horn section was removed.
Quote from: The Argyle Rebellion on May 02, 2007, 03:18:46 pm
I'm buying two copies whether or not I get a leaked one.
My reasoning is that even if I can get a band's album for free, if they are a favorite group of mine I will buy the album no matter what. Plus, they're supposed to be signing the album down at Rhino and I'm buying a copy for them to sign and a copy to play... the signed copy is getting framed and put in one of the few non-musical-memorabilia filled spots on my wall. The copy to play? I'll burn three copies and set the original aside so it doesn't get scratched.
I agree. The waiting is hard, but I figure that when I get the album through Wal-Mart's site, it should be on or a little before the fifteenth, and when I listen, it will be even more Samuel.
I don't know you so I can't figure out if this is for real or a joke. I'm really hoping the latter. Album's are for listening to. If it IS a joke then lol I suppose.
Quote from: mike on May 03, 2007, 01:31:40 pm
Quote from: The Argyle Rebellion on May 02, 2007, 03:18:46 pm
I'm buying two copies whether or not I get a leaked one.
My reasoning is that even if I can get a band's album for free, if they are a favorite group of mine I will buy the album no matter what. Plus, they're supposed to be signing the album down at Rhino and I'm buying a copy for them to sign and a copy to play... the signed copy is getting framed and put in one of the few non-musical-memorabilia filled spots on my wall. The copy to play? I'll burn three copies and set the original aside so it doesn't get scratched.
I agree. The waiting is hard, but I figure that when I get the album through Wal-Mart's site, it should be on or a little before the fifteenth, and when I listen, it will be even more Samuel.
I don't know you so I can't figure out if this is for real or a joke. I'm really hoping the latter. Album's are for listening to. If it IS a joke then lol I suppose.
Yeah... I would expect myself to agree... but I own 4 copies of "Something To Write Home About," all on vinyl, all different colored wax. Not to mention my GUKRocket From The Crypt splits and GUK/Coalesce splits of which I own 8+ of each, all in different colored vinyl, all in shrinkwrap. --Along with sealed Eudora & On A Wire LPs... Not to mention my Bra!d singles and Superchunk singles... etc.
As for OZMA, I own both the Kung Fu and Tornado recordings of both DDD and R&RP3. If you're a fan of shit, you like acquiring more related shit. Personally, I don't need more than 1 copy of the exact same thing, unless one is sealed and one isn't...
Anyway, the point is... If he likes collecting stuff, I guess that's cool. I guess.
It does sound like Argyle is--like Other Mike said--emotionally in love
with the actual physical album... but I guess I'm not one to judge though.
I think its stupid..People are getting it, already...Talking about it, and say wait it out, when they have it to begin with...
Like cesar said to say we wont buy it cuz we got it leaked is stupid cuz we like the band and were here to support them..
Wow suprised Pasadena hasn't leaked yet this thread has gotten to two pages already. Its ridiculous.
Its going to leak eventually so stop complaining about it, because its not going to leak here.
You don't deserve shit. If it leaks, great, but nobody owes you anything. Spoiled internet brats.
i don't have it and i say you all should wait.
Stop asking for it. As mentioned, I cannot prevent it from being leaked, but I will prevent beggars and whiners from posting on this forum. This is not the place.
Define "beggar".
Barriers reminds me of Yes Dear as well.. but that shouldn't be a negative thing. I still pop in the Yes Dear cd in my car once in a while. It's neat.
Well, I just can't imagine being so uptight about a normal easy to replace album. I'm not throwing my copies of trucks and cars around carelessly, but if I happen to damage my normal copy of spending time, i'm not going to freak out, or even replace it probably. I take pretty good care of my CDs, but I can't imagine not even playing a copy of a normal easily replaced record for fear of damage, that's just absurd.
So, is it just me, or is everyone getting a little upset over nothing? I havn't really seen anyone begging for the album. I havn't seen anyone asking anyone else to share it. Maybe I read this thread to fast.
edit* well besides the D song comment. Which I agree. I wouldn't mind listening to it right now, if I could. IM NOT ASKING JUST MAKING A STATEMENT. THINKING OUT LOUD. FUCK.
I do like collecting stuff... my room is pretty much a collection of music related stuff... except nothing is signed yet.
The whole reason I want two copies of Pasadena is so I can have the one signed one as a collectible thing... the other is for playing.
Perhaps I should have phrased myself differently earlier... I have two or three copies of every album that Ozma has put out, although I'm still pretty much looking for the Tornado releases. And the whole reason behind having three copies of each is that I've worn out so many CDs from playing them so much.
I don't know... I'm totally sorry if I sound weird. Trust me, I'm pretty normal, it's just I get pretty fanatical when it comes to music and it's even worse when it's one of my three favorite bands (which, listed in order, is Ozma, Weezer, and the Beach Boys).
So, to move on to bigger and brighter things, who all is going to Rhino on the 15th... I'll probably be there with my dad (who is also an Ozma fan as well; go figure, he's 50 and I'm 21 and yet we both listen to about the same music).
Sincerely,
Ron
Quote from: The Argyle Rebellion on May 03, 2007, 11:33:51 pm
I do like collecting stuff... my room is pretty much a collection of music related stuff... except nothing is signed yet.
The whole reason I want two copies of Pasadena is so I can have the one signed one as a collectible thing... the other is for playing.
Perhaps I should have phrased myself differently earlier... I have two or three copies of every album that Ozma has put out, although I'm still pretty much looking for the Tornado releases. And the whole reason behind having three copies of each is that I've worn out so many CDs from playing them so much.
I don't know... I'm totally sorry if I sound weird. Trust me, I'm pretty normal, it's just I get pretty fanatical when it comes to music and it's even worse when it's one of my three favorite bands (which, listed in order, is Ozma, Weezer, and the Beach Boys).
So, to move on to bigger and brighter things, who all is going to Rhino on the 15th... I'll probably be there with my dad (who is also an Ozma fan as well; go figure, he's 50 and I'm 21 and yet we both listen to about the same music).
Sincerely,
Ron
Funny those are decals on my back windshield.
Quote from: Rome on May 03, 2007, 11:33:11 pm
So, is it just me, or is everyone getting a little upset over nothing? I havn't really seen anyone begging for the album. I havn't seen anyone asking anyone else to share it. Maybe I read this thread to fast.
edit* well besides the D song comment. Which I agree. I wouldn't mind listening to it right now, if I could. IM NOT ASKING JUST MAKING A STATEMENT. THINKING OUT LOUD. FUCK.
Most of the posts have been removed. There are a couple of newer members in particular.
When STOTBL came around I bought 3 copies. One I was giving to Ann, one for safe keeping, and one I was going to try and get signed. I'm too much of a wimp to go up to them and ask, so the signing part never happened. Ah well. One copy of Pasaedna for me this time.
Quote from: Joe on May 04, 2007, 03:46:41 am
one I was going to try and get signed. I'm too much of a wimp to go up to them and ask, so the signing part never happened.
just try putting yourself in their shoes, dude. i had a person asked me to sign a drawing they did of me while i was on stage once, i felt very flattered that he came up to talk to me rather than annoyed, like how one thinks someone is going to be when you go up to them. they're human too, joe. :)
Haha, they'll either be flattered or they'll mutter under their breath about fat kids in weezer shirts and cargo pants. It's a true story.
**mod post***
Seriously guys, mentioning places people can download it is the same thing as saying "contact me for the album". Keep this all off board, thanks.
All posts requesting the album, announcing distribution of the album, or linking/explaining where to download the album will be deleted.
Thanks <333
Management
Keep in mind that many of the posts are referencing deleted posts in which idiots whined and demanded the new album.
I think leaks are fine, but in no way does anyone deserve an advance copy of the album.
Oh.... if thats the case sorry :P
I'll admit that I downloaded the leaked version... I caved.
Either way, I will definitely be buying the two copies I mentioned earlier. And also, I will not give the link out... I found it myself and had to jump through hoops to get it, so I hope that anyone wanting the album will do the same or wait it out until May 15th. Just know that I ain't telling how I got it and where to get it from. That ain't right.
The way I figure it, I downloaded the leak and that's cool, whatever, but I will definitely not defy the law of the forum and tell someone else where to get it... I enjoy this forum too much to do that.
Sincerely,
Ron
What is this "caved" business? I don't understand why downloading a leaked album is akin to breaking your lent sacrifice, or pre-marital sex, or whatever other sin people are comparing it to.
The Other Mike said (perhaps in another thread) that this is 2007; there's almost no reason to buy an album without listening to it beforehand. If you were planning on buying two copies, and you still are planning on buying two copies, who are you hurting?
im just afraid im not going to be able to find it in any stores around my house on may 15th
Quote from: Joe on May 04, 2007, 03:46:41 am
Most of the posts have been removed. There are a couple of newer members in particular.
Quote from: heysarahsarah on May 04, 2007, 04:37:56 pm
All posts requesting the album, announcing distribution of the album, or linking/explaining where to download the album will be deleted.
Quote from: The Other Mike on May 06, 2007, 07:51:19 am
Keep in mind that many of the posts are referencing deleted posts in which idiots whined and demanded the new album.
I think leaks are fine, but in no way does anyone deserve an advance copy of the album.
I understand now. Thanks guys!
and yeah I agree with you pat.
Sometimes, though, it is nice just to put the cd into your car right when you buy it and that being your very first listen. I guess it's more of the entire experience that matters to people. Maybe that's what argyle meant.
Well, I was kinda like that. I remember I downloaded STOTB early, but I didn't listen to it until after midnight on the day it was released (so technically I heard it before I could buy it, cuz it's not like stores were open then, but still). And it was kind of a cute idea, but what did it get me? Nothing. I listened to it, liked it, bought the album, saw Ozma live a bunch of times, nothing changed.
So yeah I understand where you're coming from (even though I don't even think you're talking about yourself, Rome), but I just don't think that there is the same ritual (or even just experience) of listening to a new album in this day and age.
Quote from: funwithsponges on May 06, 2007, 09:07:58 pm
Well, I was kinda like that. I remember I downloaded STOTB early, but I didn't listen to it until after midnight on the day it was released (so technically I heard it before I could buy it, cuz it's not like stores were open then, but still). And it was kind of a cute idea, but what did it get me? Nothing. I listened to it, liked it, bought the album, saw Ozma live a bunch of times, nothing changed.
So yeah I understand where you're coming from (even though I don't even think you're talking about yourself, Rome), but I just don't think that there is the same ritual (or even just experience) of listening to a new album in this day and age.
The only band I would still "hold out" for is Weezer. And that's just because deep down inside, I still hope for something great.
Quote from: Rome on May 07, 2007, 08:31:09 am
Quote from: funwithsponges on May 06, 2007, 09:07:58 pm
Well, I was kinda like that. I remember I downloaded STOTB early, but I didn't listen to it until after midnight on the day it was released (so technically I heard it before I could buy it, cuz it's not like stores were open then, but still). And it was kind of a cute idea, but what did it get me? Nothing. I listened to it, liked it, bought the album, saw Ozma live a bunch of times, nothing changed.
So yeah I understand where you're coming from (even though I don't even think you're talking about yourself, Rome), but I just don't think that there is the same ritual (or even just experience) of listening to a new album in this day and age.
The only band I would still "hold out" for is Weezer. And that's just because deep down inside, I still hope for something great.
which will probably never happen.
I'm like you, though, I would love a great new weezer album.
Quote from: Rome on May 07, 2007, 08:31:09 am
Quote from: funwithsponges on May 06, 2007, 09:07:58 pm
Well, I was kinda like that. I remember I downloaded STOTB early, but I didn't listen to it until after midnight on the day it was released (so technically I heard it before I could buy it, cuz it's not like stores were open then, but still). And it was kind of a cute idea, but what did it get me? Nothing. I listened to it, liked it, bought the album, saw Ozma live a bunch of times, nothing changed.
So yeah I understand where you're coming from (even though I don't even think you're talking about yourself, Rome), but I just don't think that there is the same ritual (or even just experience) of listening to a new album in this day and age.
The only band I would still "hold out" for is Weezer. And that's just because deep down inside, I still hope for something great.
Oh wow... are you real? I thought they had all died off! Can I touch you?
i'm not catching your drift...
im uh... im not picking up what you're putting down.
what?
About Weezer...
Rivers is still capable of writing great songs... it's just a matter of laziness.
I think it's more the fact that Rivers is such a neurotic weirdo. He needs to stop giving a fuck about what people think of his albums and just write.
i think it is more of the fact that we've built up blue and pinkerton so much that nothing will ever top it.
edit*** haha isn't it funny how this is now a weezer discussion?
No, honestly, I think Tom hit this nail squarely on the head.
Back to Ozma, I still haven't heard the full record yet. I've got a handful of songs, but I've yet to hear the completed product, in sequence.
ozma has their entire album on their myspace so that you can listen to it in order.
Yeah I've beel listening to it for the past day straight.
Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2007, 05:06:23 pm
Yeah I've beel listening to it for the past day straight.
my play count according to itunes is 54 for this wonderful album.
haven't leaked? you're kidding! i already bought the album and the next day, i realised that someone already put it up for downloads at some torrents site...imagine that
Quote from: butterfly on May 19, 2007, 03:45:16 am
haven't leaked? you're kidding! i already bought the album and the next day, i realised that someone already put it up for downloads at some torrents site...imagine that
lol? this thread was started several weeks ago