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Title: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: beni on January 29, 2008, 02:39:22 am
i haven't heard any news for a while and they had no gig for a long time (as it says on their website). does anyone know whats up?
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Zombie Don Ho on January 29, 2008, 08:39:50 am
The concept of that band was songwriting collaboration between Ryen, Jose and Nate... Their bass player quit, then Ryen and Jose left to reform Ozma, which presumably took the wind out of Nate's sails a bit.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on January 29, 2008, 10:25:19 am
i also think nate is busy with (the elected?)
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: FireAarro on January 29, 2008, 04:10:13 pm
Quote from: Zombie Don Ho on January 29, 2008, 08:39:50 am
The concept of that band was songwriting collaboration between Ryen, Jose and Nate... Their bass player quit, then Ryen and Jose left to reform Ozma, which presumably took the wind out of Nate's sails a bit.

Some other members joined to make it a full band again.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: beni on January 31, 2008, 06:24:01 am
Quote from: FireAarro on January 29, 2008, 04:10:13 pm
Quote from: Zombie Don Ho on January 29, 2008, 08:39:50 am
The concept of that band was songwriting collaboration between Ryen, Jose and Nate... Their bass player quit, then Ryen and Jose left to reform Ozma, which presumably took the wind out of Nate's sails a bit.

Some other members joined to make it a full band again.

yep... thats why i'm asking.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 01, 2008, 03:28:14 pm
Nate plays with the Elected and, I think, the Seeds. Miah teaches drums and guitars. That's all I know about, but they probably have gotten real jobs and/or are in university, so that probably takes up quite a bit of their time.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Fantastic Max on February 03, 2008, 10:10:56 pm
Quote from: CantelopeSkiz on February 01, 2008, 03:28:14 pm
Nate plays with the Elected and, I think, the Seeds. Miah teaches drums and guitars. That's all I know about, but they probably have gotten real jobs and/or are in university, so that probably takes up quite a bit of their time.
Yeah, and also...what happened to the other Asian guy that was in it at first? Forgot his name. He played bass.
Also, while a couple other members joined to make it a full band again, they didn't really do anything, or record anything. But as for it being a Nate/Ryen/Jose writing trio....I honestly think that Nate made that band. His written songs were the best, in my opinion.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 04, 2008, 01:09:57 pm
nope, that band was LIKE TOTALLY ryens. Give Me The End was the best yes dear song, hence written by ryen. although i believe nate and ryens styles meshed very well.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: CT-700 on February 04, 2008, 02:02:01 pm
I'd have to agree with Fantastic Sam, I think Yes Dear was more Nate than Ryen. Ryen and Jose's personal styles definately contributed to the sound though.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 05, 2008, 04:23:26 am
I liked Yes Dear just fine, but I always heard a clear separation between Ryen and Nate's writing style.  I think in time they could have developed a chemistry that would have really tied the project together, and I think their later songs suggest that, but they never really had time to get that far.  I think Ryen wrote some decent stuff for Yes Dear, but I actually tend to prefer Nate's, which is odd, because Arlo bores me to tears.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 15, 2008, 11:51:58 am
Now we all know about the 12 songs for download off of their website. However, does anybody else have the songs: Big Mistake, the Good Life, I don't Like You, Me and Zeke, or Motorhead? As well as: Death's Pretty Young Wife, Sad Little Chick, MollyB, Rosalie, and Sparks? Oh, and I put the lists separately because I am unsure of whether or not the latter list are Yes Dear demos, or Nate's own demos.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: FireAarro on February 15, 2008, 01:53:28 pm
Quote from: I Like Ozma on February 04, 2008, 01:09:57 pm
nope, that band was LIKE TOTALLY ryens. Give Me The End was the best yes dear song, hence written by ryen. although i believe nate and ryens styles meshed very well.

Hence? Are you using that in the right context?
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 16, 2008, 07:46:44 am
Quote from: CantelopeSkiz on February 15, 2008, 11:51:58 am
Now we all know about the 12 songs for download off of their website. However, does anybody else have the songs: Big Mistake, the Good Life, I don't Like You, Me and Zeke, or Motorhead? As well as: Death's Pretty Young Wife, Sad Little Chick, MollyB, Rosalie, and Sparks? Oh, and I put the lists separately because I am unsure of whether or not the latter list are Yes Dear demos, or Nate's own demos.

i have never heard of any of those. have you heard them? if yes, when/how?
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 16, 2008, 12:42:55 pm
I' really tempted to tell you that no, I haven't heard of those songs before.

The story is that accidentally found Nate Greeley on Soulseek, while looking for some Get Set Go. After browsing his files, I noticed he had some personal demos, Yes Dear demos, and one Arlo demo. I then downloaded all of them. I asked him through soulseek and myspace if it was ok to share them with other people, but i never have got an answer. it's been awhile since I've asked, but I don't want to bug the guy.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 17, 2008, 10:01:03 am
Quote from: CantelopeSkiz on February 16, 2008, 12:42:55 pm
I' really tempted to tell you that no, I haven't heard of those songs before.

The story is that accidentally found Nate Greeley on Soulseek, while looking for some Get Set Go. After browsing his files, I noticed he had some personal demos, Yes Dear demos, and one Arlo demo. I then downloaded all of them. I asked him through soulseek and myspace if it was ok to share them with other people, but i never have got an answer. it's been awhile since I've asked, but I don't want to bug the guy.

If I were you, I'd sit on them.  Though it's his own fault for sharing things on soulseek, it seems a little sketchy to be sharing things you found like that unless you have permission.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 17, 2008, 10:38:37 am
i would advise you to share the yesdear songs.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 17, 2008, 01:06:54 pm
Hey, I'd like to hear them too!  All I'm saying is that just because he was sharing them on his computer doesn't mean he necessarily mean that he wanted them heard.  I have no idea how his computer is set up, but it may have been a complete accident on his part that these ended up in a folder on his computer that wound up being shared.  And yeah, that would still make it his fault that other people managed to get them, but something about the whole thing just sits wrong with me.  If he had put these on a CD or uploaded them somewhere or sent them to fans, that would be one thing, it would suggest that he wants them heard.  To me, however, a person's computer is just about as personal as a thing can be.  I think distributing things you've gotten off his computer like that is a little bit unethical.  It's like reading somebody's diary:  just because it's left in the open doesn't mean you should scan the pages and put it online.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 17, 2008, 02:57:54 pm
I know, that's why i haven't shared them.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 17, 2008, 04:14:34 pm
I'm not saying I blame you for downloading them either.  That's why I used the analogy I did:

Quote from: Not Jason on February 17, 2008, 01:06:54 pm
It's like reading somebody's diary:  just because it's left in the open doesn't mean you should scan the pages and put it online.

But of COURSE you're going to read it.  Duh.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Rome on February 18, 2008, 12:50:51 pm
oh just share them. don't buy into jason's self rightous banter.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Oatmeal on February 18, 2008, 08:17:25 pm
so.... what's Nates soulseek name?
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 19, 2008, 06:53:14 am
Quote from: Rome on February 18, 2008, 12:50:51 pm
oh just share them. don't buy into jason's self rightous banter.

well, for the record, i don't think self-righteous is really the word I'd use.  i'd download them in a second if they were put online.  I'm just saying, it's somewhat unethical in my opinion.  If I were Nate, I'd be pissed.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 19, 2008, 07:08:41 am
well correct me if im wrong (which most likely i am)

but isnt the fact that he has the songs on soulseek mean that hes making them somewhat public?
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 19, 2008, 07:45:45 am
I don't think he meant to put them on soulseek, he just added his whole music folder to the shared files list. It's easier than adding every folder than the three which I found.

Also, I'm not going to post his username on here, I don't think it's my duty to announce his personal details here. Not that it would change much if I did post his name, he hasn't been online forever.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 19, 2008, 05:06:15 pm
alright, you dont have to... *cough* PM *cough*
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 19, 2008, 07:28:03 pm
fine
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Martha Gail on February 20, 2008, 11:27:39 am
From Nate Greely regarding the demos via myspace message:

Quotehmm. those were not supposed to be heard. it's ok i guess but mollyb is kind of a joke song birthday present for someone, so id rather not post that one. thanks for asking at least.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 20, 2008, 12:03:12 pm
so there is only one song he doesnt want posted woo hoo!!!
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Martha Gail on February 20, 2008, 12:08:26 pm
Read the very first thing he says after "hmm."
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: amish on February 20, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
If he wanted them posted, he would have provided links to them himself.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: brad on February 20, 2008, 12:31:43 pm
they were not supposed to be heard..."but it's ok" that they are.  i think they are all fair game besides mollyb.

i know it probably doesn't mean much to say this around here....but i'm with "i like ozma" on this one.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 20, 2008, 03:15:53 pm
Well, he probably doesn't want to be a prick about it and make a fuss.  Still doesn't mean he's crazy about it.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: I Like Ozma on February 21, 2008, 07:07:46 am
Quote from: Joe on February 20, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
If he wanted them posted, he would have provided links to them himself.

wow, i've never read anything any more obvious...
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: Not Jason on February 21, 2008, 01:03:05 pm
Quote from: I Like Ozma on February 21, 2008, 07:07:46 am
Quote from: Joe on February 20, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
If he wanted them posted, he would have provided links to them himself.

wow, i've never read anything any more obvious...

well, makes sense though, doesn't it?  seems a bit more rational than the sense of entitlement that some people seem to have.
Title: Re: what happened to yes dear?
Post by: gloom-glaam on February 25, 2008, 11:40:16 am
Well, I put the songs Big Mistake, Can't Say No, death's pretty young wife, I don't Like You, little sad chick, me and zeke, motorhead, rosalie, sparks, the good life, as well as and interview, and the interview's intro into the repository. hope you enjoy.