So I've been to a few shows here in Seattle, but nothing like Ozma. Here, no matter what is going on onstage, people are constantly throwing punches and trying to out-hardcore the guy next to them. I can only imagine that things are different in different places. So before I go, I'd like to know what to expect at an Ozma show in LA.
My experience with california shows is that people mostly just stand around looking bored. Then again, that was San Francisco.
Ozma shows tend to be friendly environments on the east coast, so I'd imagine they'd be similar in LA.
no jason, thats pretty much all of california
unless you go to a hardcore show, then people just act stupid and swing their fists.
im debating which is worse modern R&B or hardcore
I dunno, Jason is kinda right as far as SF goes; it obviously depends on the act and the resulting demographic of the crowd, but generally (especially as far as Ozma is concerned) LA-area shows tend to be a bit rougher and more mosh-inclined, unfortunately. Over the five years I've seen them it's definitely gotten better, probably as the fanbase has grown up and cut that shit out more and more, but there's a definite north/south divide there.
Anyway, common sense should tell you this: don't do shit that grossly interferes with other people's ability to enjoy the show. I don't know what more to say.
how the hell do you mosh to ozma?
If i'm a proper *WHACK THUD* jeeeeeewwwwish boyyy *groan* will her *thud* family *OW FUCK!* loooovvve meee
i don't get it
Tetris
Quote from: funwithsponges on February 04, 2006, 12:45:32 pm
Tetris
ya thats the only one really
and im almost positive that a pit will break out at every show they play that song
I notice people mosh to rocks at the shows I've seen.
You can mosh to ANYTHING.
Quote from: Not Jason on February 04, 2006, 04:51:57 pm
You can mosh to ANYTHING.
Well... you can mosh
during anything.Ã, I feel like you'd have a hard time justifying that you're moshing
to, for example, "Utsukushii Shibuya."Ã, Seems like a cheap excuse for having a rage problem.
Not if you couldn't hammer out what's bent.
Quote from: srm006 on February 04, 2006, 06:14:06 pm
Quote from: Not Jason on February 04, 2006, 04:51:57 pm
You can mosh to ANYTHING.
Well... you can mosh during anything.Ã, I feel like you'd have a hard time justifying that you're moshing to, for example, "Utsukushii Shibuya."Ã, Seems like a cheap excuse for having a rage problem.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a mosher. Just an observation.
Quote from: Not Jason on February 04, 2006, 11:04:25 pm
Quote from: srm006 on February 04, 2006, 06:14:06 pm
Quote from: Not Jason on February 04, 2006, 04:51:57 pm
You can mosh to ANYTHING.
Well... you can mosh during anything.Ã, I feel like you'd have a hard time justifying that you're moshing to, for example, "Utsukushii Shibuya."Ã, Seems like a cheap excuse for having a rage problem.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a mosher.Ã, Just an observation.
Oh don't worry, I didn't think you were. I just didn't want moshers to get any more credit than they deserve.
I've only been to shows in San Diego (mira mesa) and usually people are really cool. A lot of head bopping and singing along. There are some people who try and push themselves to the front, but other than that its really chill. Of course there are those songs that get the crowd rowdy, but its mostly just swaying and jumping around, I've yet to see any moshing at an Ozma show, except for when I saw them at Warp Tour, but I think it was just a bunch of hardcore kids that just wanted to be punks.
Don't be an Asian guy who stands behind Tim Landry and yells "OZMA DA SHIIITTT!" during fucking Battlescars.
Also, don't be under 21 and ask Tim Landry or any of his friends to buy you a beer.
Also, don't spend an hour telling Tim Landry how close to Dan you are.
Instead ask Carolina G to buy you a beer, then buy her one too!!! lol, no he makes sense, if your not 21 don't ask others to buy it for you. And don't stand behind me and yell all the lyrics in my ear, I want to hear the band sing also.
Quote from: Gidgetsucks on February 07, 2006, 05:31:52 pm
Instead ask Carolina G to buy you a beer, then buy her one too!!!Ã, lol, no he makes sense, if your not 21 don't ask others to buy it for you.Ã, And don't stand behind me and yell all the lyrics in my ear, I want to hear the band sing also.
This reminds me of a funny situation when I saw Ozma at the Bottom of the Hill in SF when they opened for Superdrag... my friends and I were pretty much the oldest people there. These two young looking girls come up to me and ask me if I can buy beers for them. I said, "No, but you should ask my friend over there... the tall guy... he'll probably buy you beer." They go up to my buddy and ask him and he says, "NO! I will not buy you a beer." "Why not?" one of the girls asks. "Because I'm a police officer, that's why!" my friend (who IS a cop) answers. They pretty much run away scared with me laughing my ass off nearby!
dude.
seriously.
if you want someone to buy you beer, make sure its someone you know already that WILL buy you beer.
not a total stranger.
that kind of shit always annoys the crap out of me.
it even pissed me off when my friends would do it when we were underaged.
if you cant buy it yourself, and you didnt bring someone with you who would agree to get it for you (before hand...cuz springing that on them as the reason they were brought at all is shitty too), then face it, you're not gonna get it.
otherwise, sneak it in yourself if at all possible.
Quote from: TinTin on February 07, 2006, 06:23:47 pm
Quote from: Gidgetsucks on February 07, 2006, 05:31:52 pm
Instead ask Carolina G to buy you a beer, then buy her one too!!!Ã, lol, no he makes sense, if your not 21 don't ask others to buy it for you.Ã, And don't stand behind me and yell all the lyrics in my ear, I want to hear the band sing also.
This reminds me of a funny situation when I saw Ozma at the Bottom of the Hill in SF when they opened for Superdrag...Ã, my friends and I were pretty much the oldest people there.Ã, These two young looking girls come up to me and ask me if I can buy beers for them.Ã, I said, "No, but you should ask my friend over there... the tall guy... he'll probably buy you beer."Ã, They go up to my buddy and ask him and he says, "NO! I will not buy you a beer."Ã, "Why not?" one of the girls asks.Ã, "Because I'm a police officer, that's why!" my friend (who IS a cop) answers.Ã, They pretty much run away scared with me laughing my ass off nearby!
Awsome. Superdrag AND Ozma.
Fake Edit: But seriously. That's always been something I swore I'd do--except I'd pretend to be a cop. Which could get me arrested. I'd probably get into a similar situation as the young-looking girls. I'd tell my story to a friend and he'd say "Tell the story where you pretended to be a cop to my friend over there." Then I'd tell the story to his friend and he'd arrest me for impersonating a cop because he'd be
real cop.
I'm writing a screenplay based on this.
Quote from: Not Jason on February 03, 2006, 11:13:28 pm
My experience with california shows is that people mostly just stand around looking bored.Ã,Â
Thats what it was like when I was saw them at the troubador at Hollywood. I cant really say what the Wiltren people were like beecuase I was sitting but it looked like there were some moshers. Usualy if its an indie band I think the trend is to stand bored looking, its the indie thing to do. I do that pretend that intelegent thoughts are enetering my mind.
Thing about the Troubadour show was that Ozma was opening for the Wrens, a band that skews much older than their usual bill.
Yeah, and the wrens are more a stand and stare kind of band. It would be verry likley to see people jumping around and stuff when they with save farris. Like I said depends on the band. California has about every thing so there can be exteme i hate your face violence to where every one there is high, sedated and doing other things.....to a quite sitting concert.
I always had lots of fun at Ozma shows. There was lots of friendly bumping and singing along. Not like the typical everyone acting bored indie show in San Francisco. I think the shows down in LA and up in Sac were a little more rowdy though. And you're not allowed to look happy at the Bottom of the Hill.
Every smaller type show I've been to for Ozma has been pretty low key, people boppin their head and screamin the lyrics, which is okay, if they're in key.
But at the Wiltern(their 'supposed' last show) it was a lot bigger and the Ozma fans were jumping up and down, and the theatre was so big no one really noticed. But I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
why the "supposed"?
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pmBut I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
Key Club show I attended September of '02 was rough enough to jar the minidisc deck I was recording with into oblivion. I think there may have even been a crowd surfer or two.
Though again, the trend has definitely been for the better since then, which I figure is simply the fans growing up....
Are crowd surfers really that big of a rarity? It may be the shows I go to, but up here there's always at least one person crowd surfing... And I always walk away with an assortment of bruises.
I'm seeing Reggie and the Full Effect tonight... Since it's just Reggie, I may be better off than last time (when they played with NFG). Either way, I'm stoked.
Quote from: Bob511 on February 17, 2006, 01:10:46 am
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pmBut I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
Key Club show I attended September of '02 was rough enough to jar the minidisc deck I was recording with into oblivion. I think there may have even been a crowd surfer or two.
Though again, the trend has definitely been for the better since then, which I figure is simply the fans growing up....
Heh, I have a picture of someone (ex-boardie sick deer) crowd surfing at that show. Oh man, what a great show. And they invited us all to Pat's house afterwards! And RIVERS was there!
Its hard to crowd surf in a show of a hundredish people.
Ozma is not an arena band, for the most part.
Do what you wanna to have fun, but don't bash into other people if they are standing and enjoying things in their own way. I am a smile big and bop my head/mouth words kinda girl. I don't like being pushed around.
Quote from: heysarahsarah on February 19, 2006, 07:24:53 pm
Do what you wanna to have fun, but don't bash into other people if they are standing and enjoying things in their own way.Ã, I am a smile big and bop my head/mouth words kinda girl.Ã, I don't like being pushed around.
I second that.... well, except that I'm a dude. ;D
i havnt crowd surfed since i saw the toadies on their last tour
i think id be funny if someone from the forum crowd surfed at the reunion show
(i took my sister to a hellogoodbye concert at the knitting factory [shes 15 and it was for christmas] and there were plenty of crowdsurfers)
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pm
Every smaller type show I've been to for Ozma has been pretty low key, people boppin their head and screamin the lyrics, which is okay, if they're in key.
But at the Wiltern(their 'supposed' last show) it was a lot bigger and the Ozma fans were jumping up and down, and the theatre was so big no one really noticed. But I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
you were there? awesome. I was to. But I was on the balcony section so it was all sit down.
Quote from: oatmeal on February 20, 2006, 07:17:22 pm
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pm
Every smaller type show I've been to for Ozma has been pretty low key, people boppin their head and screamin the lyrics, which is okay, if they're in key.
But at the Wiltern(their 'supposed' last show) it was a lot bigger and the Ozma fans were jumping up and down, and the theatre was so big no one really noticed. But I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
you were there? awesome. I was to. But I was on the balcony section so it was all sit down.
Yea, I was in the balcony as well, sitting in front of two older folks (probably their with their kids), and me and my friends were trying to get into Ozma, while sitting down. Akward.
Quote from: ruddiger_718 on February 21, 2006, 11:13:36 am
Quote from: oatmeal on February 20, 2006, 07:17:22 pm
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pm
Every smaller type show I've been to for Ozma has been pretty low key, people boppin their head and screamin the lyrics, which is okay, if they're in key.
But at the Wiltern(their 'supposed' last show) it was a lot bigger and the Ozma fans were jumping up and down, and the theatre was so big no one really noticed. But I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
you were there? awesome. I was to. But I was on the balcony section so it was all sit down.
Yea, I was in the balcony as well, sitting in front of two older folks (probably their with their kids), and me and my friends were trying to get into Ozma, while sitting down. Akward.
Wow really? I was behind a man and a woman with their kids and by an older couple who left after ozma was done and they told us "that it is nice to see other ozma fans". I think it was one of the ozma members parents or something. I had a green (yellow text) ozma shirt on, I was... 15? at the time. I dont know. Im 17 in one month :D. All of the other people with me were older some were in thier 20's.
Quote from: oatmeal on February 21, 2006, 10:29:24 pm
Quote from: ruddiger_718 on February 21, 2006, 11:13:36 am
Quote from: oatmeal on February 20, 2006, 07:17:22 pm
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pm
Every smaller type show I've been to for Ozma has been pretty low key, people boppin their head and screamin the lyrics, which is okay, if they're in key.
But at the Wiltern(their 'supposed' last show) it was a lot bigger and the Ozma fans were jumping up and down, and the theatre was so big no one really noticed. But I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
you were there? awesome. I was to. But I was on the balcony section so it was all sit down.
Yea, I was in the balcony as well, sitting in front of two older folks (probably their with their kids), and me and my friends were trying to get into Ozma, while sitting down. Akward.
Wow really? I was behind a man and a woman with their kids and by an older couple who left after ozma was done and they told us "that it is nice to see other ozma fans". I think it was one of the ozma members parents or something. I had a green (yellow text) ozma shirt on, I was... 15? at the time. I dont know. Im 17 in one monthÃ, :D. All of the other people with me were older some were in thier 20's.
I don't think the older folks were apreciatting me and my two friends, but it was cool, b/c after they played, we went to the lobby, and talked to some fellow fans, then met with Ryen, Daniel, Jose, and Pat.
here's some etiquette rules:
-dont play with candy wrappers
-turn off your cell phones and other noise making devices
-help remain silent during performances because the shows are recorded
-if you must leave, do it during applause
-save your applause for the end of the piece, not after every movement
-small children in the back.
Quote from: k24 on March 02, 2006, 08:25:13 am
-help remain silent during performances because the shows are recorded
Hmm. I mean, I record shows, and even I don't expect this, unless we're talking seriously over-the-top disruption or loud, unrelated conversations. People deserve to enjoy their show more than I deserve to have a pristine recording, I figure.
those are the etiquite rules for classical performances... I think it was kris' idea of a joke.
Yeah, the whole "clapping at the end of the piece, not individual movements" thing kind of gave that away, but until I got to that one I wasn't quite sure what he was getting at.
I'm not a violent person, but the most recent event which involved me punching someone in the face was at an Ozma show-he was a crowd surfer that was blocking my view. The other times I punched people in the face were so long ago, I didn't even have pubic hairs. Perhaps I was just disgruntled because of the lack of manhood.
Jonathan
Quote from: ruddiger_718 on February 22, 2006, 08:20:07 pm
Quote from: oatmeal on February 21, 2006, 10:29:24 pm
Quote from: ruddiger_718 on February 21, 2006, 11:13:36 am
Quote from: oatmeal on February 20, 2006, 07:17:22 pm
Quote from: ozmacity on February 16, 2006, 09:13:27 pm
Every smaller type show I've been to for Ozma has been pretty low key, people boppin their head and screamin the lyrics, which is okay, if they're in key.
But at the Wiltern(their 'supposed' last show) it was a lot bigger and the Ozma fans were jumping up and down, and the theatre was so big no one really noticed. But I don't think that'd work in a smaller venue like the Knitting Factory or the Key Club or something..that'd just be awkward.
you were there? awesome. I was to. But I was on the balcony section so it was all sit down.
Yea, I was in the balcony as well, sitting in front of two older folks (probably their with their kids), and me and my friends were trying to get into Ozma, while sitting down. Akward.
Wow really? I was behind a man and a woman with their kids and by an older couple who left after ozma was done and they told us "that it is nice to see other ozma fans". I think it was one of the ozma members parents or something. I had a green (yellow text) ozma shirt on, I was... 15? at the time. I dont know. Im 17 in one monthÃ, :D. All of the other people with me were older some were in thier 20's.
I don't think the older folks were apreciatting me and my two friends, but it was cool, b/c after they played, we went to the lobby, and talked to some fellow fans, then met with Ryen, Daniel, Jose, and Pat.
Yeah we had to wait all the way back past that Denny's do get good spots, and those bastards at the "floor" entrance, took the whole ticket, including the stub. I never got a "Last Ozma Show" stub..we were all so mad.
Ah well..they're back together so all is well.
if you are tall and you have tall friends, please do not stand infront of shorter people like a wall of giants.
Quote from: xellyjane on March 09, 2006, 09:50:40 am
if you are tall and you have tall friends, please do not stand infront of shorter people like a wall of giants.
If you are short, get there early and claim your place at the front before the tall people do. You should know how to deal with your horrible deformity by now.
Quote from: The Other Mike on March 09, 2006, 11:05:10 am
Quote from: xellyjane on March 09, 2006, 09:50:40 am
if you are tall and you have tall friends, please do not stand infront of shorter peopleÃ, like a wall of giants.
If you are short, get there early and claim your place at the front before the tall people do.Ã, You should know how to deal with your horrible deformity by now.
haha.
seriously though. I'm not that tall, so this doesn't really apply to me, but after the last show I went to, my friend was complaining about this tall guy that was near the front of the crowd (in reality, he was about 10 feet back from the stage). while I understand why that would be a problem, I think it's horribly unfair to say that all tall people should always have to stand in back. Seeing a band right up against the stage is a MUCH different experience than seeing it from the back of a huge crowd. Normally, if I'm in the front row and there is a short person who's head I can easily see over, I won't really contest to them getting in front of me, but I don't see it as my obligation.
i'm not that short, but i know how it is when someone way taller than you stands in your way at a show, and it sucks. it seems like no matter where you stand they somehow move in front of you, so you shift over a little and they shift the same direction. so irriating. i always turn around to make sure i'm not blocking the person directly behind me.
We should create a super race of concert-goers; all hardcore dancers, moshers, and extremely tall people will be barred from reproducing.
Quote from: default_anon on March 09, 2006, 03:24:42 pm
We should create a super race of concert-goers; all hardcore dancers, moshers, and extremely tall people will be barred from reproducing.
ummm.. im definately fine with reproducing with tall people, just not being behind them at concerts.
Quote from: Timantha on March 09, 2006, 01:31:20 pm
i'mÃ, not that short, but i know how it is when someone way taller than you stands in your way at a show, and it sucks.Ã, it seems like no matter where you stand they somehow move in front of you, so you shift over a little and they shift the same direction.Ã, so irriating.Ã, i always turn around to make sure i'm not blocking the person directly behind me.
But if you're tall, you're always going to be blocking somebody unless you are in the very back. Personally, I don't think it's reasonable or fair to expect all tall people to always stand in the back of the room.
Quote from: Not Jason on March 10, 2006, 04:54:27 pmBut if you're tall, you're always going to be blocking somebody unless you are in the very back. Personally, I don't think it's reasonable or fair to expect all tall people to always stand in the back of the room.
I totally agree, but I'm not saying I wouldn't enjoy it if all the abnormally tall people were forced to the back of the room.
Is smoking allowed in California clubs?
in california smoking is not allowed in any public buildings.
clubs, bars, resturants, museums, hospitals, hotels, stores....anywhere that is not a home, basicly.
but most places accomidate by having designated smoking areas outside.
so if you smoke, bring a jacket.
Awesome! When they passed a similar law in Washington, I'd never been so happy in my life! Until I found out that Ozma got back together, of course.
Quote from: patty on March 11, 2006, 09:03:53 am
in california smoking is not allowed in any public buildings.
clubs, bars, resturants, museums, hospitals, hotels, stores....anywhere that is not a home, basicly.
but most places accomidate by having designated smoking areas outside.
so if you smoke, bring a jacket.
It's LA, how cold can it POSSIBLY be?
even in la it gets a little cold at night.
but i was refering to anywhere in california.
Quote from: Not Jason on March 11, 2006, 07:47:04 pm
Quote from: patty on March 11, 2006, 09:03:53 am
in california smoking is not allowed in any public buildings.
clubs, bars, resturants, museums, hospitals, hotels, stores....anywhere that is not a home, basicly.
but most places accomidate by having designated smoking areas outside.
so if you smoke, bring a jacket.
It's LA, how cold can it POSSIBLY be?
It's supposed to be fuck'a cold.
In the 30's I think.
Does it seriously freeze in LA?
Quote from: Not Jason on March 11, 2006, 11:27:59 pm
Does it seriously freeze in LA?
it's been so fucking cold.Ã, --well, I mean, for L.A. I guess.Ã, It was in the 70s when I got here, and I was wearing a shirt, sweater and sweatshirt tonight and the wind chill was still awful.
at once point it was hailing on the drive to san diego
Quote from: srm273 on March 12, 2006, 02:04:13 am
Quote from: Not Jason on March 11, 2006, 11:27:59 pm
Does it seriously freeze in LA?
it's been so fucking cold.Ã, --well, I mean, for L.A. I guess.Ã, It was in the 70s when I got here, and I was wearing a shirt, sweater and sweatshirt tonight and the wind chill was still awful.
at once point it was hailing on the drive to san diego
It's nice during the day, but by about 5 pm, it gets really cold. It's also been really windy the last few days, a lot more than usual.
My mom told me the snow level in the Bay Area the other night was 500 ft, and with Sarah posting that it was snowing in Vegas a few days ago, there's just a really fucked up cold front over the whole west coast.
Considering how oddly warm a winter it's been in Maine, I'll believe it. Whether just doesn't want to make any sense this season.
Quote from: Not Jason on March 12, 2006, 08:34:29 am
Considering how oddly warm a winter it's been in Maine, I'll believe it.Ã, Whether just doesn't want to make any sense this season.
*weather