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Title: Kid Icarus
Post by: Maladroit on August 07, 2006, 08:49:21 AM
Does anyone know the lyrics to Kid Icarus?Ã,  Love the song!Ã,  Played it live in Chicago...Ã,  Ã, ;D
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: beni on August 07, 2006, 01:11:05 PM
is this new song #1 or new song #2?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Bob511 on August 07, 2006, 01:15:39 PM
First one, if you're numbering by the 2006.05.05 show.  Also gone by "Cool Song" at shows over the past several months.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: gloom-glaam on August 07, 2006, 06:05:55 PM
Is that the pone that goes
"I'm still dreaming of clock towers and synchroicity
You call it coincidence, I call it common sense"
?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Maladroit on August 08, 2006, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: beni on August 07, 2006, 01:11:05 PM
is this new song #1 or new song #2?Ã,  :laugh:

New song #1 = Kid Icarus.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: FireAarro on August 09, 2006, 02:38:03 AM
I listened to the two new songs yesterday, and I really like them. Look forward to hearing studio versions.

Anyone else think their old material is now sounding better than it ever has? Just they've improved so much as musicians, and their voices are a lot nicer.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: I like ozma on August 09, 2006, 12:19:47 PM
i dont think so
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Not Jason on August 09, 2006, 01:36:09 PM
I think Ozma is far and away tighter than they've ever been.  I think it has a lot to do with Ken being so enthusiastic about things.

Another thing I've noticed is that Dan is laying back a lot more on bass than he has done on most past tours I've seen him at.  He's playing well, but he's keeping it a lot simpler.  At least it seems that way to me, based on the two shows I was at.  I never thought dan's shreading subtracted anything from the music, but perhaps him being more rhythm based is contributing to the hard hitting tightness i've been hearing.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Nordel on August 09, 2006, 03:43:47 PM
I think they were tighter when I saw them back in 2004. I 'm more of a fan of Pat's drumming, although I was impressed with Ken's drumming.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Not Jason on August 09, 2006, 11:36:03 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 09, 2006, 03:43:47 PM
I think they were tighter when I saw them back in 2004. I 'm more of a fan of Pat's drumming, although I was impressed with Ken's drumming.

even on spending time?  i mean, I think Pat did some really cool stuff in classic ozma songs, but spending time's drumming was yawn-inspiring.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: gloom-glaam on August 10, 2006, 10:00:54 AM
Quote from: beni on August 07, 2006, 01:11:05 PM
is this new song #1 or new song #2?Ã,  :laugh:
wait, there's 2 new songs?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Zombie Don Ho on August 10, 2006, 11:13:17 AM
3 new songs have been taped.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: gloom-glaam on August 10, 2006, 12:56:21 PM
where may I get them?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Nordel on August 10, 2006, 12:56:39 PM
I think I've said this before, but my main problem with the drums on Spending Time was just the actual drum sound. I thought it lacked something that the other records had, perhaps in performance as well but mainly just in production. They should have just stuck with Bruce Witkin. He has engineered some of the best sounding drums I've heard. They're even up there with Hum - Downward is Heavenward, Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream, Weezer - Pinkerton.

And from what I hear they spent a lot less money when they worked with him having him co-produce the record. Probably got it done in less time too. But, I guess it's nice to work with other people. I just think they had a really good thing going with him.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: The Other Mike on August 10, 2006, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 10, 2006, 12:56:39 PM
I think I've said this before, but my main problem with the drums on Spending Time was just the actual drum sound. I thought it lacked something that the other records had, perhaps in performance as well but mainly just in production. They should have just stuck with Bruce Witkin. He has engineered some of the best sounding drums I've heard. They're even up there with Hum - Downward is Heavenward, Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream, Weezer - Pinkerton.

And from what I hear they spent a lot less money when they worked with him having him co-produce the record. Probably got it done in less time too. But, I guess it's nice to work with other people. I just think they had a really good thing going with him.

Quote from: pat circa spending time
boom....bap.....boom....bap....boom....bap....boom....bap
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: heyDallas on August 10, 2006, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: CantelopeSkiz on August 10, 2006, 12:56:21 PM
where may I get them?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Not Jason on August 11, 2006, 02:40:49 AM
Quote from: The Other Mike on August 10, 2006, 03:33:29 PM
Quote from: pat circa spending time
boom....bap.....boom....bap....boom....bap....boom....bap

nice.

you're exactly right about that.  Pat was capable of cool drum lines.  I've always really liked the disco beat in shootingstars for example.  on spending time though, god, there was just nothing interresting.  he was on time i guess, but beyond that, I can't think of much that those lines had going for them.  a bassist like dan deserves better drum parts than pat supplied on that record.  In my opinion at least.

Though I do agree that the drums were produced like shit on spending time as well.  even if they would have had more kick to them it would have done a world of good.  That's one of a number of things I disliked about the production on that record, and I do agree that bruce did a hell of a job on the first two records.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: skratchaholik on August 13, 2006, 08:56:03 PM
The thing that gets me is that cymbal hit at the beginning of "Restart".  The very first one...it isn't in time with anything at all...unless it is like falling on a dotted eighth note or something. 

is kid icarus not in the repository or am i just overlooking it?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Sandguy on August 14, 2006, 06:35:59 AM
Quote from: pat circa spending time
boom....bap.....boom....bap....boom....bap....boom....bap.......PISH!
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Maladroit on August 14, 2006, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: skratchaholik on August 13, 2006, 08:56:03 PM
The thing that gets me is that cymbal hit at the beginning of "Restart".Ã,  The very first one...it isn't in time with anything at all...unless it is like falling on a dotted eighth note or something.Ã, 

is kid icarus not in the repository or am i just overlooking it?
Quote from: CantelopeSkiz on August 10, 2006, 12:56:21 PM
where may I get them?

You can download both new songs here... track 4 and 5.

http://www.missteenwordpower.com/2006.05.05%20Slim's,%20San%20Francisco/
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: I like ozma on August 14, 2006, 03:48:29 PM
i was hoping they were demos
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Maladroit on August 15, 2006, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: I like ozma. on August 14, 2006, 03:48:29 PM
i was hoping they were demos

Nope, sorry... but hopefully they will put good sounding demos up on myspace soon.  Thats' what they said in Chicago... I'm waiting as well.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: ozmadic on August 26, 2006, 02:44:28 PM
i love this song...im pretty sure they played it at 2 if not the three shows i went to at chain reaction...by the third time i heard it i knew a lot of the lyrics...
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Rome on August 28, 2006, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 10, 2006, 12:56:39 PM
some of the best sounding drums I've heard. They're even up there Weezer - Pinkerton.

???

I love me some Pat Wilson, but since when is he an exceptional drummer on an album? I know he can back up his talent, I saw him do a drum solo... but weezer drums are fundamental and basic.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: FireAarro on August 29, 2006, 06:01:48 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 28, 2006, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 10, 2006, 12:56:39 PM
some of the best sounding drums I've heard. They're even up there Weezer - Pinkerton.

???

I love me some Pat Wilson, but since when is he an exceptional drummer on an album? I know he can back up his talent, I saw him do a drum solo... but weezer drums are fundamental and basic.

uhh

drum tones
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Nordel on August 29, 2006, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 28, 2006, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 10, 2006, 12:56:39 PM
some of the best sounding drums I've heard. They're even up there Weezer - Pinkerton.

???

I love me some Pat Wilson, but since when is he an exceptional drummer on an album? I know he can back up his talent, I saw him do a drum solo... but weezer drums are fundamental and basic.

Well I was talking most about production. But production aside I really loved Pat drumming on Pinkerton especially. Sure, Blue Album drums were really simple and basic, but Pat's drumming on Pinkerton was exceptional. He ins't just constantly whipping it out through the whole record, but the fills on that album perfectly complimented everything else that is going on in that record. And I think he showed more techinical proficiency on Pinkerton than on any other Weezer album.

I love the bass on that record too. Matt deserves alot of credit for great bass on Pinkerton (although I don't know if maybe Rivers wrote all or most of the bass lines or if he just kind of let Matt write his own.)
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Rome on August 29, 2006, 12:41:58 PM
QuoteSure, Blue Album drums were really simple and basic, but Pat's drumming on Pinkerton was exceptional.

They are all simple and basic. From Blue to Make Believe.



QuoteWell I was talking most about production.
Oh.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: tom on August 29, 2006, 03:40:33 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 29, 2006, 10:46:57 AM
Quote from: Rome on August 28, 2006, 11:42:20 PM
Quote from: sandbaby on August 10, 2006, 12:56:39 PM
some of the best sounding drums I've heard. They're even up there Weezer - Pinkerton.

???

I love me some Pat Wilson, but since when is he an exceptional drummer on an album? I know he can back up his talent, I saw him do a drum solo... but weezer drums are fundamental and basic.

Well I was talking most about production. But production aside I really loved Pat drumming on Pinkerton especially. Sure, Blue Album drums were really simple and basic, but Pat's drumming on Pinkerton was exceptional. He ins't just constantly whipping it out through the whole record, but the fills on that album perfectly complimented everything else that is going on in that record. And I think he showed more techinical proficiency on Pinkerton than on any other Weezer album.

I love the bass on that record too. Matt deserves alot of credit for great bass on Pinkerton (although I don't know if maybe Rivers wrote all or most of the bass lines or if he just kind of let Matt write his own.)
I don't think Matt was ever allowed to write without Rivers' input as far as I know.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: WhoYouCallinWeez on August 29, 2006, 11:13:19 PM
QuoteI don't think Matt was ever allowed to write without Rivers' input as far as I know.

i think i read that Matt wrote most of the keyboard parts on Pink, esp. on Tired of Sex. Also, i think thats why he sued Weezer, because Rivers wouldn't  give him his royalties or something?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: CT-700 on August 30, 2006, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: WhoYouCallinWeez on August 29, 2006, 11:13:19 PM
QuoteI don't think Matt was ever allowed to write without Rivers' input as far as I know.

i think i read that Matt wrote most of the keyboard parts on Pink, esp. on Tired of Sex. Also, i think thats why he sued Weezer, because Rivers wouldn'tÃ,  give him his royalties or something?

Yeah but Rivers had written TOS way back in 1992 and then it so happened he picked it back up for SFTBH. Plus he plays the keyboard on it in the ealry SFTBH demo.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: gloom-glaam on August 30, 2006, 03:59:27 PM
And he wouldn't let anyone else write a thing after blue album.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: WhoYouCallinWeez on August 30, 2006, 05:17:36 PM
yea, Rivers' def needs to let them write more stuff, esp. if there ever gonna remain inovative in there sound
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: gloom-glaam on August 30, 2006, 06:59:01 PM
They were allowed to write for Album 5 demoes.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: FireAarro on August 31, 2006, 04:49:19 AM
Quote from: CT-700 on August 30, 2006, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: WhoYouCallinWeez on August 29, 2006, 11:13:19 PM
QuoteI don't think Matt was ever allowed to write without Rivers' input as far as I know.

i think i read that Matt wrote most of the keyboard parts on Pink, esp. on Tired of Sex. Also, i think thats why he sued Weezer, because Rivers wouldn't  give him his royalties or something?

Yeah but Rivers had written TOS way back in 1992 and then it so happened he picked it back up for SFTBH. Plus he plays the keyboard on it in the ealry SFTBH demo.

Rivers had sex in 1992??
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Rome on August 31, 2006, 12:22:50 PM
a lot of rivers' songs weren't inspired by real life events...
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: The Other Mike on August 31, 2006, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: WhoYouCallinWeez on August 30, 2006, 05:17:36 PM
yea, Rivers' def needs to let them write more stuff, esp. if there ever gonna remain inovative in there sound

remain?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: tom on September 02, 2006, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: Rome on August 31, 2006, 12:22:50 PM
a lot of rivers' songs weren't inspired by real life events...
You mean to tell me Dope Nose isnt factual?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: WhoYouCallinWeez on September 03, 2006, 09:50:58 AM
they will never write a song better than Falling For You.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: The Other Mike on September 03, 2006, 09:55:33 AM
I'm really glad this topic got turned into yet another discussion about the declining quality of weezer's artistic output.  That's just what this board needs.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: WhoYouCallinWeez on September 03, 2006, 09:52:09 PM
ok. Kid Icarus is a good song, need to hear a demo before i make my final call, but its a good jam!
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: I like ozma on September 06, 2006, 10:40:42 AM
Quote from: WhoYouCallinWeez on September 03, 2006, 09:50:58 AM
they will never write a song better than Falling For You.

except for "i do"
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: Nordel on September 12, 2006, 10:41:25 AM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 06, 2006, 10:40:42 AM
Quote from: WhoYouCallinWeez on September 03, 2006, 09:50:58 AM
they will never write a song better than Falling For You.

true
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: brad on September 12, 2006, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 03, 2006, 09:55:33 AM
I'm really glad this topic got turned into yet another discussion about the declining quality of weezer's artistic output.Ã,  That's just what this board needs.
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: noonchild on September 12, 2006, 08:27:40 PM
Speaking of weezer, did anyone notice that they sound a lot like ozma??  and vice versa?
Title: Re: Kid Icarus
Post by: WhoYouCallinWeez on September 13, 2006, 04:28:39 PM
haha. NO they DONT but i do love Weezer's cover of Contraband's "Devotion"